Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Poser Girls Lineup comparisons

Lyrra opened this issue on Nov 19, 2015 ยท 115 posts


Lyrra posted Thu, 19 November 2015 at 7:05 PM

Greetings!

I think a lot of people have seen the new Poser girl Pauline by now. But like any new Poser figure she has features that I think not everyone knows about.

So I have decided to make some renders of all the poser girls lined up so you can see them together.

Here we have the first lineup

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From Left to Right

Poser 4 nude woman aka Posette, Jessi1, Alyson2, Sydney, Roxie, Pauline and Victoria 4

These are the figures as they load right out of the runtime, IK turned off and poses zeroed before the arms were bent down. As you can see a range of body ratios, polycounts and heights going on here.

Here I have scaled all the figure to about the same height with an allover Body Scale.

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First pose test

The all important arms up test. This checks the range of the collar and shoulder rotation. most figures have some sort of hidden correction going on to fix the bends here and you can see why.

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The ministry of Silly Walks brings you pose test 2 - 150 degree bend on thigh and 120 degree bend on shin. Arms up and forearms bent to 90 degrees. As you can see these bends cause a lot of problems which some figures solve and some well ... don't.

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So how is all this done you ask?

Well there is a lot more going on under the hood then you can first see. First I'll explain some terms for the confused and then I'll go through and mention which figures have what features.

Joint Deformers - Joint deformers are things like magnets that are built into the figure. They are coded to activate when certain bends reach a specific point. These figures have a 'magnetise' pose with them to add the deformers effect to their clothing. This is what causes the v4 breasts to pop out in some poses, and why the magnetise pose fixes it.

Joint Correction Morphs - also known as JCM's are morphs that will fix crumple and other issues when a certain rotation reaches a specified point. Usually the end user needs to do nothing, it just happens magically. Clothing creators though need to make sure they have matching JCM's in their clothing where needed. Pauline has particular hefty thigh fixing JCM's to keep an eye on.

Buttocks Parts - As you can see on Posette the full human range of motion does nasty things to a figure rigged with hip - thigh - shin. For a while people tried a buttocks part as a buffer to help things out, and it does help.

Torso Sections - Humans can have very flexible spines, leading to a range of bending in the torso difficult to emulate. Most figures have three torso sections - hip, abdomen and chest. Some have added a fourth part usually called 'waist'.

Bodyhandles - Bodyhandles are invisible or hidden parts, usually with no geometry, that allow you to adjust parts of a figure without morphs. You see this often on long skirts, but some poser figures have had them here and there. Easy to miss if you are not looking for them.

Pelvis - The pelvis part has no geometry of its own, so it acts kind of like a bodyhandle, but it is in the main hierarchy of the rigging. This acts as a buffer zone for bends like Buttocks did.

Breast Location - People keep changing their minds on this. Should breasts be on the collars left and right, or on the chest.

Weightmaps - Weightmaps are another method of smoothing the bends. Again this is invisible and in the rigging. This technology uses a painted map to tell the program what squishes, what doesnt and how much.

Posette - breasts on chest. 3 part torso. no buttock. No JCMs

jessi 1 - breasts on chest. 3 part torso. no buttock. No JCMs

Alyson - breasts on collar. 4 part torso. no buttock. Joint correction deformers. invisible pelvis part

Sydney g2 - breasts on chest. 4 part torso. buttock part. Joint correction deformers.

Roxie - breasts on collar. 4 part torso. no buttock. invisible pelvis part. Invisible buttock and breast handles. Joint correction deformers.

Pauline - breasts on collar. 4 part torso. no buttock. invisible bodyhandles for breasts, labia, buttocks, and full face rigging. JCMs

Victoria 4 - breasts on chest. 3 part torso. no buttock. Joint correction deformers. JCMs

Pauline has one notable unique characteristic - instead of using morphs for facial expressions she has a full range of handles on her face for a full face rigging. so you can wiggle her ears and scrunch her eyes and all sorts of things just by moving those around.

Okay I think I've blathered on long enough. I hope that answered some questions about the various figures.

About Judy - yes I left her out. She does not currently ship with poser, so I figured people didnt need to know. She falls in the lineup right after posette and before Jessi 1.

Lyrra Madril