Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Dynamic cloth - the cloth room For Compleat Dummies

RobynsVeil opened this issue on Dec 03, 2010 · 409 posts


RobynsVeil posted Fri, 03 December 2010 at 11:34 PM

I've finally got my PC back from repair, and it seems to work reasonably well. I had been following the discussions by LaurieA and Grappo and others who tout the merits of the cloth room. There is no question in my mind that the appearance of even ordinary dynamic cloth after it has gone through the simulation/draping thingie IS infinitely more natural-looking than the very best conforming cloth.

So, why isn't everyone doing it? Why does it appear to be black magic to all but the initiated? Now, I've tried a few simulations recently myself with an item or two, but my results don't look anywhere near as nice as those of Those-That-Know. And of course, the Manual is poo.

Or is it?

Like with the Material Room, is there just a design issue that is preventing the average Jane Doe who has just unwrapped her shiny new copy of Poser X from slipping a dynamic cloth prop (why is it a prop? it's CLOTHING!) on to her favourite figure and clicking on the [Drape] button? Perhaps because there is no [Drape] button, just like there's no [Make Art] button either.

Okay... let's be fair. What's involved in making a conforming cloth fit a figure? You go into your Figures library (it's not a figure, either, it's CLOTHING!) and you pick an item... double-click, and it's in the scene. If you haven't posed your figure yet (he or she's still zeroed) then the item pops magically right into place right on the figure, fitting pretty well if it's the default figure in zero morphed state. Then it's:

Menu -> Figure -> Conform To...

and you pick who to conform to from a picklist. You're done.

Well, how many people use a completely un-morphed figure? And then, once you start posing this figure, issues develop. Poke-through etc-etc-etc. So no, it's not the perfect solution, but to get that initial clothing on, very-very simple to do.

BTW, there is a school of thought that entertains the notion that it's best to actually pose your figure before conforming clothing to it.

Okay, so let's get lost real quick. I've got this item in my props library called L75 A-V 4 BabyDoll. Double clicked on it and it's sort-of on V4. In the parameter-dials window, I notice there's a L75_V4 Fit dial. Set that to 1, and we're laughin'... looks perfect.

Now what?

Ice-boy said "ohhhh and dynamic clothing rocks. it takes 1 month to learn the basics." Why? It took 1 minute to learn the basics of conforming cloth. To those that are reasonably familiar with dynamic cloth: do you find it acceptable that one approach should take so much longer to learn than the other? What makes it so difficult to learn?

Monterey/Mint21.x/Win10 - Blender3.x - PP11.3(cm) - Musescore3.6.2

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