thanks to a little addon for Firefox, we can now get accurate page loading speeds for a website.. so.. Ebay.com : 0.160s Freefall (webcomic) : 0.219s BBC News : 1.234s POserforums : 1.320s Caligari Forums : 1.453s DAZ Forums : 2.656s Amazon.com : 5.532s then we have... Renderosity : 11.610 (change to Poser forum) Renderosity : 11.470s (opening new post page in Community center) ....oops. I hope this can help the staff here find out what is choking the site. as you can see from th figures, it ain' my connection thats at fault...