I've just started playing with the demo of Vue4, my results so far are dreadful lol! (my fault not Vue's!)but I like the feel of the programme. All my renders so far have that characteristic, hazy Vue softness, I've tried turning down/off every mist haze atmospheric control I can find but can't get a clear sharp render. I know Vue is capable of this clearer cleaner type of image so what's the secret? Do I need Vue 5? or a pro version? I love the terrain editor, I never really got on with Bryces terrain editor but the Vue version works really well. My only critisism so far is the demo only comes with 3 (terrible) landscape mats. Does anyone know if the download version of Vue4 comes with a better selection? Thanks for your help! - Baz