I am wondering if Vue Infinite is going to be able to import P6-format files?

If not, then I hope that e-on will quickly move to update so as to integrate with P6.

Message edited on: 02/01/2005 13:31

P6 ? Do you mean Poser 5 instead ? Poser 5 files are supported except for the procedural materials. Dynamic hair and clothes are supported if you use Mover.

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It's just been announced today. Looks like P6 is going to roll out at close to the same time as Vue Infinite.

I am curious as to compatibilty. I realize that it's early to be asking about this......but it's a matter that interests me.

ditto.

Since no-one has released any details of the P6 features, how can anyone possibly answer this question properly? I would guess that P6 will retain the pz3 format as P5 did. Previous word from Curious Labs was to the effect that P6 would concentrate on improving usability rather than features (and not before time either) but this remains to be seen. Considering that e-on have done nothing to improve compatibility with P5, not even in Vue 5, I greatly doubt they will bother with P6. Not even P4 imports are fully supported (reflective materials are screwed up).

Since no-one has released any details of the P6 features, how can anyone possibly answer this question properly?

Oh, I dunno......it's possible that someone that reads this forum is privy to information that I don't have.

Admittedly, it could be that no one knows the answer. I figured that it was worth the effort of asking.

Considering that e-on have done nothing to improve compatibility with P5, not even in Vue 5, I greatly doubt they will bother with P6.

For a long time, Vue could not import P5 files at all. Only P4.

In fact, the up-graded ability to easily import P5 files was the feature that sold me on Vue in the first place. I would have been a Vue customer earlier, if P5 capability had been in place sooner.

So......e-on actually did go to the trouble of enhancing Vue for P5. They haven't quite covered all of the bases when it comes to materials.

This thread is as much of a hint as a question. Although the question is intended seriously.

In regard to P5 mat problems..there are several threads over at E-ON that address this. According to E-ON there is only so much they can do, as this has to with CL releasing more of there SDK, which apparently in refernce to the materials they are not willing to do.

poser 6 and vue5 infinite, expensive spring but promising :)

Hmmmm.

I haven't visited e-on's forums for a long time.

Even back when I visited, it was only briefly to read some tech support threads.

Sounds like maybe I should take another look.

Xeno..look in the regular forums(not the Pro)...look for threads with topics regarding bump maps or just flat out materials. Like Agiel stated procedurals/metals are affected mostly. That said in Poser 5 most items are plugged into the Gradient Bump node..there appearence once imported look fine. Now...in P5 those maps SHOULD be plugged into the REAL bump node. If you do this & then import....let's just say, you'll need to make some slight adjustments, it was much worse about 2 upgrades back, but looks much better now :)

dlk30341 -- thanks for the info. That sounds useful. I'll go see.

"We are indeed working with Curious Labs on trying to get an updated SDK that will support Poser 6. At this point, Poser 6 installs will not be validated by Vue, I'm afraid." Quote from Sbell at E-ON.

Message edited on: 02/02/2005 16:43

yep i just noticed stevens reply in my thread, promising and the updated sdk is great news, hope cl and e.on pulls out all stops :)

Nothing would please me more than having V5I & P6 arriving close to the same time :) Ah...so that's you ;). LOL

Message edited on: 02/02/2005 17:31

Thanks again for the update, dlk30341. This is good to hear. Sounds like e-on and CL are working things out.

Think positive. That's what I say........ It just might happen.

if we could dream alittle it would be great to see cl and e.on taking it to the next level with the updated sdk, would be realy neat to be able to pose directly inside of v5I aslong as you have poser6 installed, ok, ok i know im dreaming :) hey dlk ive figured out who you are to :)

Since Poser 4 can read Poser 5 files, I find it odd that Vue could not - it's still pz3 format. Even if CL haven't released the full SDK, since pz3 format is ASCII, it should be easy enough to sort out bump strength and reflectivity just by looking at the files.

The problem is not just the file format. Vue requires Poser to be installed as it uses libraries from the Poser installation to open Poser files. Poser 6 will not be recognized immediately by Vue because it is just not known to the application. e-on will have to check if the current way of opening poser files still works and if it doesn't, change the way they access Poser files to open files.... all that before they can release an update to allow Vue access to Poser 6.

That's interesting, I wasn't aware of that. In that case, there may well be a problem, since I suspect the Poser 6 libraries may be quite different. Of course, that's just a guess.

Well....that depends. You can copy the P5 non-dynamic stuff into P4 and it works just fine. Until they get the sdk issues sorted, it =may= be possible to keep both P5 and P6 on the same system, transfer the content over for import, and use the time to start learning the ins and outs of P6 without sacrificing total Vue compatibility.

Yes- I've already transferred a lot of internal Poser 5 files, like: asi32_13.dll imageIOEngineWin.dll imageIOUtilities.dll etc. and made Poser 4 Pro-Pack an UPGRADED version which works great in Win XP and on SATA Drives, which Pro-Pack's older files had trouble with. Needless to say- I still prefer Pro-Pack and have absolutely NO Poser import problems with Vue 5- ever...