Im new here (this is my first post but ive been hovering around the sight for a year now) and i just got poser 5 today (christmas). Its sweet, interface is great and i was pumpin out images in no time. However, i was under the impression (due to the immense population of v3 in the marketplace) that v3, freak, m3, s3 etc were curious labs included models, not DAZ studio models that cost 39.99 a piece. So i ask you, why does anybody need these? are they more realistic? Is there any aspect of them i cant duplicate on my own with morphs and such off of judy? every picture i have seen of v3 looks far superior to judy, but isnt this just from the lack of awesome textures on judy? With some work, could i emulate these looks so i dont have to spend the same amound of money poser 5 costed? I appreciate your responses, feel free to set me straight as i really dont know. It appears the faces on v3 are better, better lips, better face morphs- how do i do this with judy? just continue reading the manual as i mess around with the program (im on page 100, but now im skipping around)? Any words of advice would be greatly appreciated as im going out of town and cant experiment with my program. Side note: i have already made several morphs for judy that look amazing- DAZ quality minus the texxtures (still havent figured out the bump mapping process- invert, grayscale, somethin or other). Am i missing something here?