i had a thought, in the middle of the night,..lol...but what about, and im not sure if this is possible or plausible, but why not... what about Amapi as a plug in/stand alone for Carrara? it seems like its kind of what theyre going for in a roundabout way...and it is a better modeling program, sooooo..once both programs are installed and you go into the 'modeling room' in C, then it just opens up Amapi instead? is it a bad idea? gawd i need sleep...lol..