ok gang... I currently have Carrara Studio 2... and though I wouldn't even concider modeling a fart in it I do love how it renders... not as quick as some apps, but better results than any other I have worked with... yup, Carrara sports a mighty fine render engine... my question is... does it finally come with the modeling tools I need for subd, box modeling... stuff like move>normal, or extrude>region, or edge tools ie loops for selection, also select by color? is the dolly cam on the mouse or is it still right click first? in other words, does Carrara 3 finally have all the tools, or... is this just another walk down yesterdays lane? I mean, I do all my modeling in Wings3D right now, then export either into C4D or Carrara for coloring/texturing and rendering... I like C4D ok enough but... I really enjoy working within Carrara much better... so deos it have the tools to keep me in one app or... I would love to see some screenshots of the new improved vertex modeler doing simple things like as mentioned... move>normal.. also would like some more info on the new spline extrude stuff... thnx