Quote - sunbeam, please send bug report to SM on the up-down keys in library, as they are working for some OS X user(s).  see if they work in tiger version of poser 8.

Ok. Yes, they worked in Tiger version.

Adobe Photoshop Elements (Mac OS) 6.0, 4.0, or 3.0 Adobe Photoshop CS4 US$599 Adobe Photoshop Elements (Windows®) 7.0, 6.0, 5.0, or 4.0 Adobe Photoshop CS4 US$599

Your $299 is definitely a special offer! This is the upgrade price that Adobe has on its site.

When I choose render Settings the sketch setting panel flashes up briefly before the Firefly panel loads.
Anyone else found this?
(PowerMac G5, OSX 10.5.8 Leopard)

I prefer the older style Free Stuff page.

No. haven't got Elements, so I'm not buying an upgrade yet.

NB
Scroll wheel works with parameter palette but not with library palette. Have to use the bar on rhs of library palette and it's difficult to (a) see and (b) use. Someone suggested using up and down keys to move through the icons but it doesn't work on my machine. (Mac G5 ppc OSX Leopard)

Here's what Adobe say:

"Am I eligible for upgrade pricing from an earlier suite edition to a standalone product?

No. Upgrade pricing is available only if you have one of the qualifying earlier products listed on the upgrade eligibility page of the product you wish to purchase and can provide the serial number for that product during installation.

Creative Suite Premium or Standard; Creative Suite 2 Premium or Standard; Production Studio; and Macromedia Studio do not qualify for upgrade pricing on standalone products such as Photoshop CS4, Illustrator CS4, or Dreamweaver CS4."

So it can't be done.
The only other version I have of Photoshop is Photoshop 7; but that's not in their upgrade list either.
I shall continue with my CS2 version.

I've rearranged the rhs so that the parameters are docked above the library; this suits me better. I still prefer the side-by-side arrangement of Poser 7 though; a lot less scrolling!

Had a message from a friend in a Design house. He also has CS2 and bought the Photoshop upgrade alone. When installing the installer said it couldn't find the application - it was asking for a version of Photoshop, not the entire Suite. When he typed in his Photoshop serial number it was rejected. He says there's info on Adobe site that confirms he can't upgrade from CS2 (full) to CS4 Photoshop; he has to upgrade from a version of Photoshop.
I'll tell him what you said.

Ah but I haven't got just Photoshop CS2 - I've got the full Creative Suite 2; and you can't upgrade from that to Photoshop CS4.

Version of P8 on Tiger has only the installed runtime and does not call on runtimes on any other part of the computer.

Version of P8 on Leopard has other runtimes within the Poser 8 folder and does not call on runtimes on any other part of the computer.

Quote - all prefs/preview display at default settings?

Yes. But undo reduced to 12 and 6 for render cache.
What's the "thread" number mean, by the way? It is larger in Poser 8.

Quote - jeez, this was already at the bottom of the page today!  well, anyway, sunbeam, what happens when ya unmount and turn off the leopard disk, then try to run poser 8.app from main HD of G5 tower? is any software like "little snitch" installed?

?little snitch?
I installed Poser on the main drive (Tiger) and it was only after finding it rather sluggish that I decided to instal it on Leopard as well.

Quote -
p.s. whilst P8 may not a 64-bit app, leopard and snow leopard are both able to access 8 GB. altho one would question how one could jam all those into a G5.  4 slots at 512 MB each would be default IIRC.

This G5 has eight slots all capable of taking 1Gb.

Activity Monitor:
On Tiger:
Poser 7: real memory 192Mb virtual memory 680 Mb threads 1
poser 8: real 153Mb  virtual 818Mb  threads 10
on Leopard:
poser 7: real 205Mb virtual 1.2Gb threads 2
Poser 8: real 190Mb virtual 1.32Gb threads 11

Quote - in re: the spinning pizzas in poser 8, just 3 questions: 1. was the version of poser 8 the downloaded version?

1. was the poser 8.app patched?
2. what is the final size of the poser 8 folder in applications folder?

I bought the CD version
Patch was applied
on Tiger the Poser 8 folder is 4.93 Gb
on Leopard it's bigger because I've added runtimes, 5.84Gb

Thanks for confirming my results - I often wonder if it's just me!