Thanks c1rcle ! :-) You know I'm a bit tempted_ if thats my problem.. off to count my folders! I'm currently running Pro Pak (don't know why I said 4.03) and P5_ haven't really gone across to P5 properly yet_ just pointed it at my old P4 runtime_ so had thought to start rebuilding it all in P5_ but its a lot of work. Does Pbooost work ok with ProPack? (and I don't mind the advert at all!)