<> My 2 coppers: Not a waste of time. Watch the galleys, if you don't believe me. At the forfront of the debate are two main issues. Cost and and the butt-ugly factor. As Trav has stated, the ugly complaint doesn't hold water anymore. With all the neat-o mophs he and others are providing (for free), Vicky users should be kissing the ground they walk on. However, Vicky's cost is something we can't really do anything about. People are acustomed to finding good Poser stuff for free. Eve, being a good example. They can't rationalize spending that kinda dough. I would make a plea to Zygote to drop her price in about a month or so. Don't raise her to $100 for Bog's sake! If they dropped her to, say $30 bucks after demand tappers off, then they could probably clean up quickly. $30 buck is something that the casual user should be able to swallow for such an awsome model. Personally, I would not care if her price went down, after shelling out the $60. Hell, I'd forfeit $30 just to see more general exceptance in the comunity. -Nik <>