CyberStretch, You are correct - CL does have a presence here and they more than likely read a good percentage of the posts. The problem is, this is the same discussion we all had back when ProPack was being released. CL relented then. Do you think that they forgot that particular uproar and just went ahead this time with this copy protection anyway? Not likely. I will wager that this time there will be NO relenting no matter what opinions are expressed here. And please, don't get me wrong - It is VERY important that people convey their opinions. My sole "problem" is that people talked about why they weren't going to buy Poser5 without thinking about all of the other things they put up with in life ONLY because they've become so used to them, i.e. car registration. And this is only ONE item where it is relevant - I am sure we put up with ALOT more than this. My point is... CL is not the only entity doing this. THINK about the other things in your life that you HAVE to put up with and put everything in perspective. That's all. Express your opinions? ABSOLUTELY. And also... use your (everyone including me) brain!