PAGZone, I understand what you are saying, and as a long-time Poser user (yes, there is a copy of Poser 2 buried somewhere in the mountains of CDs on my shelves) I really do understand your sentiments. I started using Poser in college where they had it in a graphics lab I worked in. I thought it was the neatest thing, especially because as a college student I could not afford THE application at the time - 3D Studio (the old, ugly DOS versions). All I was pointing out was that CL has apparently made this decision to "upscale" their product, and I tried to provide a possible explanation of why. There WILL be people placed out of the opportunity to buy this upgrade, and the community as a whole will suffer from their inability to participate. But as I tried to say earlier, it is an economic decision. If CL feels that their product has a certain value, or if they have to recoup a specific amount of development costs and have determined that X users will upgrade or purchase at $X and $Y costs, then that is their decision. I am sure that they have performed some market analysis, and they believe they will be able to get a "fair value - from their perspective" with the price points they have set. They will live or die by that decision. If they meet their sales targets, then they survice to make Poser 6. If not enough people can afford to upgrade or purchase full copies, then they will either have to lower the price or will go out of business. And even if they lower the price later, they may generate ill feelings in the community and still not succeed. However, all of this aside, it does not hurt to voice your opinions. CL does listen to these forums, and they may better understand the impact that their pricing structure will have on ALL of their market, not just those who can readily justify the purchase/upgrade. - Ray Yamka