Rob, I'm glad my comp has linux on it. the gpl doesn't have any wierd rights for people in it. ~g~ it boils down to: I can do anything I want with the program(s), as long as I include a copy of the gpl when redistributing it. and I make available the source code for the program. the graphics suite I'm working on for the linux os is a gpl project. that means that it comes with the source code, when it is finally released. ( which means when it's functional ) your download times for sharon probably be faster, since I have the x-server running. it was probably when the comp went into powersave mode when it was that slow. yes, sharon is on server on my laptop, the comp I'm using to post this. ~g~