Somehow I think that the recent DAZziness, combined with what Martin C's working on and the announcment by Steve Cooper -- maybe the current clothing could be modified to work with Poser 5. From what I know of collision detection and cloth in other 3D proggies, the tighter the mesh, the better the results. So maybe just a quick sub-divide of polys will make the old clothes work with the new poser. At least that's my hope, I just spent almost 2 C-notes this weekend buying clothes for Mike, Vicky and Steph and upgrading to Mike2 and Vicky2... Until more details surface, we're all just guessing (except for those of us gagged with duct-tape). MrMongo, aka Mike Rhodes