I don't know much about NYW but I think it's a different mesh to P4W? The texture mapping is different at any rate. I'd really like to get P4W if it's possible, I already have loads of morphs, characters and textures for P4W, there's very little out there for NYW. (Well I've not seen much anyway!) Baz By the way, Daz have told me that Vicky will work with P3, apart from the trans maps of course. V1 would probably be a better buy than NYW (IMHO)