And sometimes the poster him/herself has yet another idea of what the post is meant to say, LOL! You could reload the MAT before the one you are trying to get rid of, but if the new one changed things that were in addition to those affected by the previous.... well, I guess you would have to dig out the manual and perform this mysterious trick of doing it by hand, LOL! cheers, Dan http://www.zenwareonline.com for CR2Edit, ZenPaint, ZenTile, VueMaster and the complete line of Zenware graphics apps