I assumed removing everything was exactly what queri was after :) Funny how we each read the same post in a diferent way. Reminds us that we are all individuals in our own right s And you know what, after thinking about, most MAT files that come with products don't include one of the original. Isn't that weird! And hey, how about loading in textures and stuff by hand. Been sooo long since any of us have done it, we seem to have forgotten it as an option DOH!