midinick posted at 12:00 PM Thu, 27 November 2025 - #4501716

Hello, I’ll add my thoughts here as well. I was really looking forward to Poser 14, but the changes just aren’t valuable enough for me to justify an upgrade from 13 to 14. What I truly don’t understand is why the Cloth Room is gone. Okay, maybe only temporarily, but let’s be honest: without ODFs, dynamic clothing for La Femme 2 would leave her practically naked. Tipol’s wonderful clothing would suddenly be nothing more than decoration in the runtime, as would the clothing by Karanta, Frequency3D, and all the others I’m not even listing here…
No. It’s simply a “no” to Poser 14.

More and more creators are turning away from Poser, and older content is sometimes unusable without adjustments. As an old user—one who apparently belongs to that group of 20 old men in a basement (yes, sarcasm; I’m more semi-adult and definitely not an old man)—I know how to make these adjustments. I can import content from other programs. But a new user only has what comes with the software.

Now imagine this scenario: a brand-new Poser user, completely new to everything. They get software with lots of figures and clothing, but half of it can’t be used because it’s dynamic—if it’s even still included. They’re excited about La Femme 1+2 and La Homme 1+2, only to discover that there’s barely any content available, especially for the “2” versions. As an experienced Poser user, I can compensate for missing items, simply because my runtime is basically a marketplace on its own—but for a beginner, this could be extremely discouraging.

I started with Poser 6 back in the day and returned with Poser 11. Any content I buy for DAZ Studio, I buy exclusively with the intention of using it in Poser. I can’t imagine switching programs… but upgrading to Poser 14 isn’t an option for me right now either. In my opinion, it doesn’t offer any meaningful added value—but maybe that’s true for all new developments. I also originally thought I wouldn’t need Poser 13, and now it’s the program for me.

I’m sure the marketplace would benefit if Poser users could buy DAZ content from DAZ creators and then use it in Poser… without big detours, without scripts—just simply usable.

I don’t want to complain too much; I’m lucky to have a huge runtime. For me, Poser is a program I practically grew up with, and I think many long-time users feel the same way. We don’t use it because we have to, we use it because we want to. We don’t use it out of nostalgia; we use it simply because we love it. And that’s also the answer to drage’s question about why anyone still uses Poser at all:
Because we love Poser.

This is the wrong direction. Wrong to give a new version with basically no new figure or appreciable updates and take away the feature that gave an entire wardrobe to a lot of the new figures. Wrong to not give regular updates or an indication in the past months where the software is going--instead releasing a 'web-based' version that was an absolute disaster with no appreciable sense of why it was released and for whom.

I am not sure what the direction is here. What I know is that I am staying with Poser 13 for the foreseeable future because Poser 14 does not give me anything that is worth upgrading over to what 13 already has.