Torquinox posted at 9:15 AM Sat, 19 April 2025 - #4495092

Thanks gohan.

Let's stay civil, please. People use the ignore button for their own reasons.

With regard to thread-starting posts, greed could be a factor in current pricing policies - Difficult to prove!

I'm not fussed about DEI stuff - Artists are a diverse and subversive lot. You get all kinds. Besides, the story of Western art has long been the story of white male lone genius creators. There is plenty of room for other visions and perspectives. The fun part is, we do get a lot of  perspectives in the Daz and Poser communities. It's pretty cool. 

The hope for some people with the single-base G9 mesh was that we'd get more male content, more unisex clothing, more characters developed as males and females. It hasn't really worked out that way. G9 is now broken into feminine and masculine. There is some masculine stuff, but it's drowned by the feminine stuff, same as happens in every Daz figure generation. 

I doubt there is much a G10 figure could add to what we already have. I look at it this way: Every generation of figure adds developmental complexity. Eventually, the figure will be too complex to create for. As it is, only Daz PAs have access to the tools to make fully-realized G9 characters. If G10 is even more complex, then what? That's for the future. 

My initial response to gohant only said that labeling an androgynous character as DEI was over the top. And being that DEI is currently in the news, yes, it is the MAGA buzzword of the month. For that and other disagreements I was called "part of the problem", "mentally ill", an attention seeker, can't see past my own nose, "daft", and someone who welcomes the change with insanity. All because I disagreed with his opinion. 

The fact is, the androgynous Genesis 9 figure would only be an issue to those who focus on nude renders and animations. If G9 doesn't float your boat, you still have G8 and earlier versions. 

So let's look at things the other way. There are many of us that focus on portraits and "real world" renders. I can sit here and complain all day about the lack of real-world clothing available for any character, and the overabundance of skimp wear and bikinis. But I won't call someone names like mentioned above for disagreeing with me. 

It's time for me to put gohant on ignore.