shvrdavid posted at 12:04 PM Sat, 15 March 2025 - #4494283

Carkey posted at 5:28 PM Fri, 14 March 2025 - #4494267

Hi, the reason I came to this forum was to provide validated insight that the Apple Silicon Mac industry is worthy of future Poser support in hopes that its developers would reconsider their cancelation decision someday. 

Ironically, the insight you provided only applies to people that own a newer Mac. All Mac users are less than 6 percent of internet users and probably far far less in the terms of Poser users. Catering to a few percent of sales would not be productive for any developer.

Don't confuse current Apple sales numbers with actual user data, they are completely different things. On some days, more people use Linux than a newer Mac, and that is a fact, not conjecture. Mac total usage was 5.56% worldwide last month.... 5.56%.... Less than 6 out of 100. How many do you think use Poser out of the 5.56%? How many have an M Mac out of that? 1 out of a 100,000 Poser users is probably a conservative, but decent guess.....

I can understand people that have a Mac being upset. Don't get me wrong about that. But they should be upset at Apple, not the developers that can no longer afford to develop for two different systems, with one that changes all the time breaking things on top of it.

What will Mac users do when they drop what they have now, hardware wise? And worse yet, drop support for it entirely or do an update that breaks things, Like Poser 11 and 12 on a Mac that wont ever be fixed at this point..... Betting most Mac users don't think about that, because that doesn't affect their bottom line at all....... That pisses developers off, there is no need to break a prior operating system, and they did just that on purpose......

I really don't understand comparing an A100 server GPU to a mac either... That A100 will outrun an entire store of Macs.. An H200 will outrun an entire warehouse of them...... Comparisons like that are the equivalent of grabbing at straws because you don't have a valid point to begin with. Statements like that will do nothing to aid in getting Mac support because you don't have a valid argument to begin with.. A pc with a 4060, 3070, 2080 ti, etc, will be faster than an M4 in many things, including Optix rendering a Mac can not do, get over it already.... Anyone with both can attest to that... No one really cares that a Mac has unified memory you don't really need for Poser either.

Face it, there isn't any profit in Mac for many developers and Mac users should get used to it... It is only going to get worse when Apple forces native code to access low level hardware and commands..... And they will do that at some point, you can plan on it.... Most developers can not afford to develop for that low of a number of users, get used to it.... 

People should be upset at Apple for this, not the developers that are left with no choice but to drop support due to lack of sales on that platform......

Apple did this to themselves, but by all means blame everyone else for what Apple did to itself.....

Well correct me if I'm wrong but it appears to me that Bondware put the nail in the coffin on Poser for macOS because they've reached the limits of OpenGL deprecation that's capped at v4.1, so I find it suspicious that they'd kill distribution to their Mac base just because of Windows market share.  I can easily list several examples of other 3D apps that not only transitioned support for macOS but also Linux and one of those cases I've mentioned in a previous post that's only a solo developer.  It's obvious Poser Mac user base would decline rapidly over subsequent years after Apple announced that OpenGL would be deprecated in favor of Metal.  Leadership appears to have not implemented a plan of action to prepare for the Apple Silicon transition plausibly because their IDE for OpenGL is also supported for their Windows distribution and that begs the question; for how long will their Windows support endure under the aging OpenGL framework?  

Technology has always continued to advance for PCs & Macs over the decades so it's going to be inevitable that Poser needs to adapt to these transitions or become obsolete.