3D-Mobster opened this issue on Aug 09, 2023 ยท 28 posts
3D-Mobster posted Thu, 10 August 2023 at 2:59 AM
Don't play the victim here.
I try to encourage people to have a civilized talk about AI, and you rush at me like an angry shark.
"Before i even bother to take the time to reply to this post, and its many points, have you actually used AI... Seeing as it is that easy to use and you can turn out images of very high quality in a few minutes, i would like to see who i'm replying to and their understanding of how it work, please show your AI creations here and your understanding of the medium..."
That comment is extremely uncalled for and not only rude but also very arrogant. Yet I comply with what you say and post some images, only for you to continue turning it into some kind of "test" as if you hold the golden standard for what is required for someone to use AI. In which case I bite back and then you get offended by it when I don't agree with your definition of high quality.
Yet, never once do you explain what this "test" is supposed to demonstrate and why it is required for you to "..bother spending your time" to share your expert knowledge, as I assume the reason why the test was so important was that you had a point with it?
To me, the approach you have chosen here is equal to someone asking for help with something about Poser and then someone answering that "they can't be bothered to help them unless the person first demonstrates that they can do the most basic stuff first."
As you say you have 25 years of experience with 3D, so you know how long time it takes to learn. Yet like me, you can't have used AI for a long time, because it obviously hasn't been available for that long and already we can make amazing images as above. I like you have also worked with 3D for a very long time, almost 30 years, given the first program I used was Truespace 1.0, yet mostly as a hobbyist with some professional jobs on the side, but not to the point where I would call myself even semi-professional. My point is that learning 3D takes a very long time, these are complex programs in themselves just to learn how to use effectively, but also they require a lot of let's call it secondary learning, like all the techniques in regards to lighting, materials, camera, animation etc.
My point is, that none of us could make anything even remotely "great" in 3D after just a few months of working with whatever 3d application used. So at least for me, it is very difficult to be impressed by any AI-generated images, not because a lot of them don't look cool, but due to the insane amount of cool images being made, but you also know that there is not 25 years experience behind these images, that is just a fact.
So despite what you might think, I would actually find your view on it interesting. Because both of us are going to face AI-generated 3D very soon, in the same way as those working with 2D are now.