Folks, please keep the discussion civil, or I or one of the other mods WILL be forced to lock down this thread, and quite honestly, that's the last thing we want to do. Like most Poser users commenting and following this thread, I want to see how Orion and Venus turn out in the end. Folks like Shane deserve our support for their contributions to the Poser/3D community, so let's keep it that way, and thank you! 

--Anim8dtoon, Renderosity Moderator