Forum: Poser 12


Subject: The unmentioned death of DSON importation...

JAG opened this issue on Nov 17, 2020 ยท 144 posts


JAG posted Sun, 22 November 2020 at 5:31 AM

wolf359 posted at 5:29AM Sun, 22 November 2020 - #4405382

@ssgbryan

The Problem with this (often repeated), gratuitous assertion of yours is as follows:

The Majority of the current Daz studio user base has never used poser and are thus not concerned with any "feature parity" with poser.?

Only the ability to use the latest Genesis models/content natively. and that does not cost $750 USD as people's costs will vary greatly depending on what bundles etc. they choose to buy during whatever sale promotion at Daz or here at the RMP.?

A new user can download Daz studio for ZERO USD and get the base version of the latest Genesis models and spend $225 USD on whatever content Daz has in one of their endless sales. and still not have reached the initial cost of buying poser 12 for $249.?

So this 700+ USD number, you keep repeating, is completey arbitrary & based on personal decisions you chose to make and have nothing to do with what others may choose to buy for their Daz studio usage.

By the way, Houdini is one of the most advanced 3d programs out >there. Complex Houdini scenes are not compatible with any other >program

Not entirely true:?

https://www.sidefx.com/products/houdini-engine/

Of course the truly complex procedural native stuff needs to be done within houdini but its not exactly a closed garden.

Bondware has decided to move away from maintaining third party import export plugins( poser fusion, DSON)and focus on the core application with a token FBX importer/exporter.

That is fine because the core program and its content and figures needs to be competitive before people outside of the poser ecosystem find them desirable for use in other programs....is that the case at present????

The harsh truth of the matter is the neither Iclone CC3 figures nor the Mighty Genesis figures from Daz are widely used by professional Gaming or Film/TV/VFX studios who use Maya ,Houdini or even Blender.

Go on... have a look at any offcial demo Reel by Autodesk, SideFX the Foundry or any amazing Game engine Demo by Epic games or Unity and you wont find a Daz or Iclone/CC3 figure anywhere.?

So this endless debate about "compatibility" for SOME ,in the poser community has only ever been about one thing.

The Desire/Demand to use the Daz genesis models without leaving the myopic little comfort bubble of Poser.

WOW. I'M GONNA SAY I'M IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID. FINALLY SOMEBODY WITH SOME INTELLIGENCE. THANKS FOR GIGGING ON THAT $700 DOLLAR THING TOO. WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT? DAZ IS FREEWARE FROM THE FLOOR UP. THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY ON CONTENT NOT THE ACTUAL SOFTWARE. THEY TRIED ONCE...AND IT FLOPPED SO HARD IT HURT. THANK YOU FOR BACKING ME UP AND WITH FACTS TOO!