Nah, my clothes are good ol' regular sculpting xD the skirt layers in Lolita Dress were a round plane with a hole in it that I simulated in Poser itself for the flow, then back into an old version of Cinema4d to model the rest.

My proper training with Max was basic at best - my college had such an old version, I hated the program, it was so not user-friendly that my teacher couldn't speak english and he'd come ask me what the name of a function might be because the program had no ICONS. Pretty sure it does now, but that kind of price on a program kept me away from it lol

I'm seriously considering learning Blender instead cause I can't update C4d either - but Blender is not very friendly for me either, with all the needing keyboard shortcuts. Again, that lack of memory of mine.

Anyway, have fun at poker!

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Feel free to call me Ohki!

Poser Pro 11, Poser 12 and Poser 13, Windows 10, Superfly junkie. My units are milimeters.

Persephone (the computer): AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3070 GPU, 96gb ram.