@ TheDarkerSideOfArt: Yeah, that's what I call renders. Ther is one more painful truth. There is also the Poser users responsibility. Don't complain about SM. Do better, make better scenes and renders. Stop those dead eyed Dawn and V4 renders. You have Superfly now and most renders still look flat and like done back in 2006. Check out the Poser Staff Picks Sept3. to 9. Only 4 out of 12 winners posts, actually have an acceptable quality. Is this realy representing a modern software? The future of Poser is also in your hands. Be an inspiration to others.