SamTherapy posted at 1:14PM Sun, 23 July 2017 - #4310527

This is a guess - and I don't presume to speak for the OP - but I think the intent was "How about making a figure that comes with morphs, clothes and hair, and doesn't look like a bag of smashed crabs".

Poser native figures have a tradition of either playing fast and loose with basic anatomical proportions, having next to no included morphs or looking homely at best, to truly, hideously frightening at worst.

Even with the existing technology, surely it's not too much to ask SM to bundle a decent figure with the software.

I much prefer the way SM is handling it - add new tech to the program and allow the end user to add that tech to the figure of their choice. Most of the complaints here about figures seem to be based on being aggressively unwilling to let go of a Poser 4 workflow (aka Load, Conform, Make Art). This kind of thinking as been holding Poser back for too long.

I use a modern version of Poser Pro (like most people here at 'Rosity), along with it's features, so these "problems" people on this thread talk about aren't really problems, if one uses the tools available to them.

As far as a new figure, I'll ask again.

What is your plan for getting legacy based vendors to learn ANY post-Poser 7 feature?

What is your plan for getting any vendor on board with a new figure? The legacy based vendors have made it clear that they WILL NOT learn any post-Poser 7 feature, nor will they support any non-DAZ figure. So what is your plan?

By embracing the features in the software, not the mesh It doesn't matter to me if they want to learn anything or not.

Furthermore, define "decent" figure.

My definition of a "decent" figure is a realistically sized, realistically proportioned figure. Poser has been reliably delivering them - and outside of Antonia, no one else has.

I also need a wide variety of ethnicities, and ages - I have gotten that in the past from SM. The only 3rd party that has managed that is V4 & that took over a decade (and dedicated vendors like Reciecup). Since V4, early 20's Caucasians make up over 95% of the figures released. Add in the fact that once you have purchased 3 or so characters from a vendor, you have purchased all of them, because they all look like they are closely related to each other. Which is another reason to not limit yourself to a single mesh.

This may be hard to grasp, but not everyone using Poser aspires to be a 3rd rate Gil Elvgren wannabe.

I see just as many SM figures in the real world as I do DAZ figures - the difference is the SM figures are used by large corporations in everyday situations, the other figures - not so much.