@wolf359 You can get Renderman 20 the current flagship free on a noncommercial basis. Same price as Daz Iray. Research, education or just a ordinary hobbyist minding his own business. Full version No limits in software, no watermark either. Of course I got it a few months before they extended such a generous offer which is the story of my life, I was a little ticked at first, although I would come unstuck anyway as would be using commercial. There is quite a few companies doing this now some of the best software in the world for free on the grounds if you master it and turn it to income you agreed will do the right thing and throw them a few bucks for the paid version in some cases quite a few bucks. Seems the more complex the software like node based compositing and editing the 30 trial days are over they give it free to learn and dabble.

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