Yup, DAZ will surely ban you for telling the truth and then call it speculation. It's not wild speculation if it is based in fact and holds true over time. And assumptions don't seem so unfounded when they become facts.

I'm not worried about it. I'm just setting here eating popcorn watching long time DAZ customers leave DAZ. Watching the quality of the DAZ galleries go down as the most talented render artist move on.{my holloween renders "night nurse" and "Sister Vivian{?}, goblin slayer" will be postsed to my gallery here}

DAZ's only options now are a 3; going on 4, year old version of Studio; which is the last version of Studio developed by the origenal DAZ crew. And Carrara 8.5; which the same could be said of {C8.5 was in production when that online avatar company bought out DAZ}.

And that is when things started going horrably wrong at DAZ. Ya, I had issues with the way DAZ has done things since I was conscripted with Carrara 5, but it went from aggrivating to infuriating when that new company took over. And DAZ has done no real application development since. All they have done is some updates to Studio and slapped a few bandaids on the C8.5 beta and called it a realese version. {Then took a big step back from thier promised release pricing, and wondered why people weren't grabbing the crappy end of the stick they were offered}.

I'm sure most will agree that I am one of the most stubborn men they have ever met, and I have given up on DAZ.

When you make it all about the profit it is nolonger about the customers, and as such, costs you long term customers. People will eventually get fed up with the crap and move on.