I don't use 8.5. Never bought it because I never felt that it was worth the price they were asking. I've no interest in Genesis. I just want a better Carrara. I can't really add to your thread over at DAZ. Anything I'd say would probably get delelted for being 'off topic'. I'd hate for 'them' to have to go to any trouble on my account. Glad you started it, though. Hope it accomplishes something...anything. Any sort of word from the PTB would be a welcome change from their current bully tactics.

Interesting thing. I notice (at this time) that your thread has over 200 views but only 6 replies (I realize some have been deleted by 'them'). I know from other users of 8.5 that there are more issues than the few listed so far. I'm interested in seeing how this plays out.