I've been using the hell out of Genesis since I got C8.5. But with out C8.5 it is the mil4 figures. If I have issues with genesis in a scene I drop back ti the mil 4 figures.

I'm using genesis because of it morphability, and looks in posing. I also; like many others, jumped on the genesis band wagon and spent a fair chunkOchange getting the figure set up. My bad, I assumed DAZ would do updates to the figure like they had with V4, but instead jumped to the next figure shortly after the release of Genesis. After throwing that money at genesis I couldn't afford to back G2F; I wasn't the only one griping about it.

If you have the $$$ and C8.5 skip genesis go right to G2F/M. Genesis is like that failed experament with a lab animal you just don't have the heart to put down lol