Can't argue with ether of you, your points are valid.

"Lets go nuts and slash it to $3000 one off payment? Still interested"?

For what DAZ is charging for optitex dynaimic clothes, that would take what 2 months to pay off? Even if it took 6 months to pay off it would still be worth the investment.

I know not every DAZ PA is using top of the line software, but some use 3DS; $3675, or Modo; $1495. So actually $3000 is what you would pay for a top of the line CG app. {and why I bought carrara to begin with. One good thing about carrara is the price hasn't went up in all these years still runs $550} 

But seriously, I don't have enough of a hint of what went on where to speculate what the issue is. I know things changed abruptly with the release of Studio 4; as did many things.

What I do know is DAZ made some wild promises to begin with and then failed to meet those promeses. But that is nothing new for DAZ and why DAZ doesn't announce much any more.

At the onset, when DAZ was hyping all this they claimed there would be the optitex sim in Studio and Carrara, that there would be the dynaimc clothing control for Studio and carrara, and I beleve it was a standalone for the creation app so clothes could be used in both Studio and carrara. Studio got the sim and control plugins, then we were told it wasn't coming to carrara, then nothing, dead topic that will be deleted off the DAZ forum in a heart beat.

It's is quite apparent what we have now is all we will get.

Now I will speculatate that the dynaimc clothes weren't the big seller DAZ was hoping they would be, so DAZ cut their losses by stopping further development.

As far as Optitex under cutting DAZ, when hasn't it been cheeper to go to the manufacturer to buy commodities? You always save money cutting out the middle man, and lets face it DAZ being a content broker means they are just the hosting middle man. And you know as well as I just how much of your pie DAZ gets. So any indavidual using Optitex software to make clothes has to keep their price high to cover that cost, then DAZ doubles that and wonders why Optitex clothes aren't selling well at the DAZ store. I know DAZ needs to make a profit, but you wont make any profit from nonsales do to over pricing. As in to make a profit off an item it actually has to sell. If it's over priced and not selling you aren't making any profit.

To tell you the truth I have never gotten Otitex clothes from DAZ, I have always gotten them from Optitex. Being a C.O.B{cheep old Bas} when I can get a clothing collection for the cost of a pair of pants and a vest on DAZ, that is where I am going to be shopping. In my little town here we have 2 gas stations. If one drops their price the other does, it's called compatition. If DAZ would rather lose sales then cut prices to be competetive, that's on DAZ.

Now I have been hunting for vids people have done using Optitex clothes in Studio, but I'm not really finding much. Not sure if very few people are using it or I'm looking in the wrong place. But Optitex dynaimc clothes don't seem very popular with studio users.

I've used the dynaimc clothes quite a bit; or atleast done a bunch of tests and experaments. I works well enough but takes some prep and effort to get good results. That in and of it's self may be the issue. Seems a lot of studio users don't want to put any more effort in to it then load and shoot. So prep work is not an option for them. If it doesn't just load and work, they wont use it. As in I was working on a scene with V4 sitting down in a chair then getting back up. The optitex dress kept swinging under the chair and snagging. I had to make a cube the same size as the chair base, run the sim, the replace the cube with the chair for the render. Worked well but simple prop swapping seems too much for some people.

But that is a different argument