When Daz acquires 3 outstanding 3D apps, i.e. Carrara, Hexagon and Bryce, and after 7 years turns them into a pile of ruins, I call it sheer incompetence.

When Daz calls a useless buggy Carrara 8.5 release, that in my opinion wasn't even tested more than 1/2 day before being shipped and then claims this is the best Carrara release ever, I call it bad faith.

It only shows that Daz doesn't take any pride in its work.