Quote - The other question is do they really care? It's obvious that 8.5 was not worth the years long wait. It's my guess that they only worked on it when they had a spare moment. Judging by all the niggling little problems still in the software, I'd guess that they only released it because they were tired of fooling with it.

I agree. And I think it's more than just a guess. It's most likely a fact.

8.5 was released with probably so many known screw-ups that Daz shut down the Mantis bug tracker just prior to the release so the place doesn't get flooded with bug reports a month or two after the release.