I have to wonder just what did DAZ fix in the C8.5 beta? I mean so far I have read a gripe from some one on about every issue I had with the .5 beta the first month it was out. Seems anything that was fixed over the coarse of the beta was Geneis related.

But hey, the person that worked with C8.5 for two years isn't at all needed on the DAZ forum. I see posts all the time from people wondering about this, having isues with that, and starting at 0 doing things I worked with extensivly in the beta.

I think that DAZ should invite me back to the forum, give me a copy of C8.5 for the unwarented baning, give me the forum title of "doom sayer" and leave me and my posts alone.

And C9 will have full Terragen quality, atmospherics, high quality dynaimics; including soft body figures, and real time playback of aniamtions in the assembly room. Add to that finally learning what a looped animation is.

Well if you're going to dream, dream big

DAZ should know by now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnxLinrHzKk "cause you that I can"