Ok, I'll have to conceed I miss read it read it. Just being magnamus, because I can't possably prove other wise now can I? {tit for tat}

I will point yet again to the promised .5 update at a nominal fee.  $285 is an olympian leep above nominal. So DAZ lied to us; us being pretty much every carrara owner, for 2 years. And we aren't suposed to be upset by that?

So DAZ's words are empty, meaningless, and carry no weight. But that is not news to anyone that has been with DAZ for a while. People wonder why no one from DAZ says much, the answer is easy, it's hard to talk when you can't keep your feet out of your mouth.

Considering I based my assumtions of the pricing of the C8.5 on past DAZ price points, I will have to agree. I way, way, way undersetimated it in even my worst most pesemistic esimations. So I may be wrong on my estimations for C9. But not in a good way.

What "we"?

And don't even start with me on truth. DAZ doesn't even know the meaning of the word. More over truth and fact are quite often 2 vastly different things.

And I will maintane the % off are just DAZ smoke and mirror to convince people that $285 is a good price for a .5 update. I have complete comfidence we wont see C9 for any less then $800; and I don't mean $799.95, or after several ?% discounts. Please, by all means prove me wrong.

In fact this carrara pricing thing is a text book example of smoke and mirrors.

Thing is with all my rants, and wild assumptions I'm really hoping DAZ will prove me wrong, but far too often DAZ proves me right.

Did I not say the reason DAZ was holding off giving out the price of the .5 update was because the price was outragious, was I wrong?

If you want to bring other apps in to it, why not. Why isn't carrara free like studio? Why are we paying $285 for something that amounts to little more then Genesis and DUF/DSON compatability, when it is free in studio.

If carrara development is just that much more costly then studios where is the proof of this? When was the last time DAZ; not the previous devs, not some shoe horned in feature by another company, but DAZ put a major feature in carrara?

And don't say DSON/DUF or genesis. Tweaks and light icons are hardly worth $285.

You know what is real funny. You say you didn't write it, but I don't see you denying it as a fact. And I am well aware nothing DAZ says is carved in stone. The price of the .5 update proves that.

The fact is there wont be an upgrade path from C8 to C9. There also wont be an upgrade path from C8.5 to C9. What there will be is a discount for previuos purchesers on rebuying carrara. Much like the example that has just been set. The real question is how little of a % discount will C8 owners get as compared to C8.5 owners.

You know what that means right? Whether you said it or not is irrelevent, I am still right.

Go ahead, please, prove me wrong. Really, I want DAZ to prove me wrong. So far DAZ has done little more then reinforce my pesimisiam.