The one thing I never really liked was how 8.5 organized things. That made it very user unfriendly for me. I know change is good, but when it's confusing, well, that's just too much change. That's just my opinion, so don't anybody go all DAZ on me.

That's interesting that elements are missing in 8.5 that are there in 8.1.

All the little things that are still wrong with this release is what gets me. According to what I read, installing content is sometimes a problem with content there then not there or never there, smart content not being so smart, Genesis use slowing everything down (I'd hate to think what multiple Gen figures would do to a scene), autofit still has issues, and now finding out that not all elements of a figure show up in 8.5.

Hmmm. Maybe you're right. Two hundred eighty-five dollars might just be a tad overpriced. I really do like Carrara. I don't want it to go away. I hope if 9 ever comes out it will be a bit more ready for prime time.