Hey, Andrew! Still here. In between corrections at the moment. Sorry to hear that 8.5 is not up to snuff. I really am. Even though I'm opting not to buy this round of Carrara, I did want it to work. Especially the physics end of it.

It's sad, really. All that work and time spent on the beta and development, it still seems like 8.5 is in beta.

For cloth sims, I would have recommended Marvelous Designer, but since they released their newest version the company seems to be taking lessons from DAZ. The new program has fewer features than the previous v.2 and the cost has risen by a lot. They're even pushing a subscription plan which is totals to to like 3 or 4 hundred dollars for a year. I'm sticking with v.2, which is no longer available. What are these companys thinking?

For Poser cloth sims, make extra sure that there's very little to no pokethrough for the garment. I don't use Poser's cloth sim much, but when I do that's the biggest problem I have. I always forget it when it's time to run the sim. But I'm not getting old. :) Also make sure you've ticked which collisions you want or don't want. Can't remember anything else at the moment. No, I'm not getting old at all.