HYa David, that's fantastic news about the job/work! Really looking forward to seeing what you come up with!

Ah, I bought 8.5 for a few reasons. One of them was to keep Daz afloat and interested in developing Carrara :) T'other reason was for cloth sim - which is a waste of time still. Unless you want to drape a table cloth on a character's head - then it works pretty well. 

I loaded up a coat obj 7,000 polys? and tried to do a cloth sim, Carrara stalled. So I took it into Poser and poser stalled! So I still need to give carrara some more testing - but the next time I did it crashed. (another garment) I think it's because we can't rule out parts of the figure eg head hands feet etc like we cam in Poser. 

Also I loaded up a scene in Car 8.5 I had been working on, mucked around did a test render and timed it. Didn't save scene as I have been warned  of mip mapping??? problems going from car 8.5 to 8.1?? Loaded it up in car 8.1, did a render and timed it - same times. But I did notice that some of my texture names were missing in the shader room..... (you knowhow you can see the name of a texture if you select the parameter that it resides in) 

Not sure if it's anything to do with car 8.5 I am paranoid after the first beta screwed my runtime and daz was still letting people download it knowing it would screw their runtime and not warning people! 

not bashing daz, just saying that maybe somethings could get tested better.

so I have Car 8.5, can't really see a use for it in my workflow though. Which is sad. It just disrupts my workflow at the moment.

Eg half the time when you add a runtime it gives it some weird name and you can't see the pics that go with the runtime, then you add it again and it works, so you have to go and delete the other runtime etc....

I think for the next update DAZ really needs to listen to it's customers, rather than listening to their accountant.

They need to ask what their users want and give it to them, rather than give us what they think will be good for Daz.

Hmm, I'm not really bashing daz...... 

sorry to abduct your thread stan,