New Poser versions get more and more techy and less newbie friendly which has drawn newbies to DAZ Studio,  while DAZ has gone more newbie friendly but isolationist which has screwed the 3rd party vendor market - the market that has kept this entire thing alive for all these years.

I want to load the character in, add clothes in that match the character's poses immediately and not need a degree in physics to know how the materials and render engine interact with the lights. That's what made me interested in Poser 4 and Vicki2.

A lot of folks who have bought content over the years want to be able to use that content when new versions of 3d people are released... because they INVESTED in those clothes and skins and poses. Genesis was a great idea for this because you could use Gen3 clothes on Gen5 people. The problem is you have to convert this clothing item and run that script and watch 15 tutorials and read the forums every day to know how to use it because Poser and DAZ forgot what paid their rent all these years - not trying to emulate the top end apps, but focusing on EASE OF USE.

DAZ is winning the ease of use battle, but the huge base of long-term customers are using Poser... not DAZ... and it's screwing the vendors who are getting half the income they could be getting.

I blame the companies behind DAZ and Poser.

I use Poser Pro 2010 and Vicki4... they work fine and have tons of support.

Make me want to buy a newer Poser. Make me want to invest in a newer Vicki. Don't just assume I will because I always have.