Quote - Ah yea, just re-read your post.  Still using Poser 7 here.  LaurieA has some really nice shiny metal shaders too.  The magnifying glass is fun to play with -- pull Gosha's hand away from his face and at 1.4 IOR the distortion become really pronounced.  It's a nice effect and I'm glad I stumbled upon the thread with the MAT information.

Be Well,

I think the great thing about a lot of BB's shaders is they're backwards compatible to Poser 7... many of them... as I understand it.

I don't really know how much different the fresnel_blend node is to that set of nodes BB has in the shader you showed there?

It's simpler to use I guess, certainly...