hahahahhaaa... good point Russ... hrmmmm.... it'd take a bit of pointer allocation... but when you access a hidden forum from say... a link tossed at you via IM or in the chat, or.. from teh side bar.. you could have a link towards the top like.. unhide? hrmmmmm... might be too much of a pain 8 ) but.. if not 8 ) CHeers