I think what many are missing here is just what "Open Source" truely means. ODF was never out to beat the vickies. He was in love with an idea to create and to share. That's the spirit that this community originally was born from. Users sharing thier hard work sweat and tears helping each other learn. It wasn't about "The Money" or "The Victory", it was about the trip we take in getting there! The learning. The gaining of experience. The really good stuff that money and coupons and vouchers and sales just can't buy for you. That's how I see Antonia!