Quote - Oh right: Figure -> Symmetry -> Left to Right (or Right to Left) -> Include joint setup.  Probably you already figured this out though.

Yeah. I'd really go nuts if I had to set both shoes up separately..lol.

But I'm still perplexed at what keeps screwing up the hip in the rig...sigh.

When I use the joint editor (I always use it in the pose room), I select the body and make all zeroes in each of the boxes where it says center point then push the Zero Rotations button, then do the same for the hip. Is that wrong?

Laurie