Thanks. At least that last bit was something I was already used to since I started doing external geometry for my props ;o).

I've got one more question: when you first rig your shoes and go back to the pose room to zero them in the joint editor before trying the first conform - do you zero the body only? Or the hip too. I zeroed the hip before and alas, my rig is f*d...lol. I'm thinking I'm not supposed to zero that. So, it's another do-over, but at least I know what I've got to correct for these shoes anyway.

Laurie