Quote - But so far, there still haven't been any actual numbers for me to try and then, I hope, go "Ah, yes! I see what this value is doing and why my guess was so wrong!" I imagine that RobynsVeil had the idea in her mind that this thread might produce something more than being content with random dial twiddling until things look right. If not, I certainly do.

Precisely, John. The hit-and-miss aproach doesn't work in the material room: Bagginsbill proved that quite clearly. And in order to get reasonably good results in this cloth room, a comprehensive understanding of the parameters and variables one deals with is going to ensure a much quicker, more consistent success ratio than the trial-and-error approach.

You are lucky (and amazingly good!), Laurie. You have intuitively met with success with your experiments - your images are a standard to aspire to! I mean that in all sincerity. For the rest of us plodding phlegmatics, we need a more definable approach, one where the interface itself doesn't obscure the meanings of dials with arcane names and where we can go to the right dial knowing this is what we need to manipulate to achieve the desired effect. This is where SM needs to re-think things, if they want this feature to be more accessible.

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