> Quote - May the Bagginsbill of the Cloth Room please raise his or her hand

My wish, too.

Quote - Apparently, there are several Poser artists who have attained a significant level of profficiency in this area.

I'm starting to doubt that anyone has actually used the Cloth Room to do anything more than simply posing a figure in a standing-up or, at most, lounging-on-the-ground pose. Okay, so this thread is not exactly weeks old, but so far the response has definitely not been "Look at this picture I did where my character is doing this everyday-but-still-complicated pose. And here's how I did it..." It's been theory, more theory, and "This is how it should work" from the sidelines.

Anyway... the attached picture. I swapped out the previous skirt for a longer one and used the exact settings as before. Look at the difference. I doubt anyone could have predicted that this skirt would do those things with the precise same settings as the first one.

Problem areas:

1. Skirt sinking through the thighs. It started out okay but then with just a few frames to go, it started to sink through her legs. Why? Why obey the collision and then decide, without any apparent cause, to act as if it weren't there?

2. Just as in yesterday's skirt, this one has also gone straight through the chair. It worked, up to a point, and then it just sailed right through. And before anyone asks... at no time does the character actually intersect the chair. I made sure that there was a gap of a few millimetres between her thighs and the chair so the skirt material could sit betwen flesh and wood comfortably.

3. Some strange breaking of the mesh around the waistband of the skirt (it's even worse on the other side).

Every simulation I've tried (yesterday and today) was at 30 frames and with 15 steps per frame.

I think I've just about reached that familiar old "Why am I even bothering with this useless thing?" point, unless someone can offer some info that actually does work and can explain why it works with their settings and not with the ones I've been trying.