Thanks Brian and Shawn, been reading the tut on how to model and car (CG  society),  that young fella is pretty darn good and the tut is excellent and extremely detailed.  He does spell out that good 2D drawings make things easy.  He had some not so great ones that he had to work around.

Hexagon is powerful.  However, I need to work the different  "rooms" aka functions so that they come natural.  I've been jumping around in the manual and tutorial-a very bad habit of mine-probably need to do step 1 instead of step 5-can't model a complex thing like a car there yet.  Everything looks come until I smooth (wheel wells, windows, stuff that cuts out etc).  It just takes time, "must not be in a hurry" , " must not be in a hurry", must remember that phrase-I can do it.

Jan