Quote - > Quote -  2 or 3 years old renders dont count IMO

I'm talking about the recent stuff......

like the Spitfire he's got spot on with the shader's? - I've actually been around / under a real Mark XVI at the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum, and he's got it perfectly. just missing any rust / dust.

(lovely place. you can get right upto the planes there. they just ask you don't touch... many times I've been lying under the Spitfire or the Lancaster taking photos of details like the inside of the wheel wells......)