Thanks Becco, left one is close enough, well guess I could fix both, kind of moot at this point.
Little depressed I guess, I'm at the top of my 3gig memory limit with TG2 or my render engine. I tried a real world render, as in atmosphere the simplest of landscapes, power fractaled fake grass, and I still had to back off on the booster, the chrome, and I still got errors.
I need Win 7 64 bit and TG2 64 bit with 12 gigs of memory, maybe then..
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